Saturday, April 10, 2010

America's Fiercist Climate Blogger Reams Canadian Oil Company

That's Joe Romm from Climate Progress for the uninitiated, on Husky Energy, who are sticking the following advert on Canadian gas pumps:
Here’s how “Mother Nature” makes her fuel...

First, you take some heavy oil or tar sands from Canada. If you’re a Canadian oil producer, you call tar sands “oil sands” (see Memo to all: They ain’t “oil sands”). Everyone else can call it the “biggest global warming crime ever seen.” See also Canadian bishop challenges the “moral legitimacy” of tar sands production.

Then you refine it into gasoline and add “up to 10% ethanol.” Of course, this is the not ethanol from low-carbon, sustainably grown cellulosic biomass:

Cough! [Bullshi!t] Cough! It’s made from the most environmentally-destructive form of oil known to humankind with a little environmentally-questionable food-based biofuel thrown in.

Mother Nature needs to hire a good attorney.

Joe's got a new book out, by the way.

21 comments:

謝木儀 said...
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elroy said...

Can you blame industry from trying to cash in on the growing green scam. This is becoming the biggest thing since prohibition. From Enron salivating at all the money to be made from cap&trade, to EU officials investigating billions in fraud from phony carbon credits, to an Indian owned steel plant in the UK scaling back production and selling the resulting carbon credits only to transfer the production to India. Even Rahim Jaffer wants in on it according to todays Star: "As the Star reported this week, both men discussed Jaffer's ability to provide businesses with government "green grants" at various business meetings, one with a trio of high-class escorts." - TorStar
These green scams will soon overtake Climategate as the story the MSM wont report.

Ti-Guy said...

Can you blame industry from trying to cash in on the growing green scam.

Yes. Why not? What are you, stupid?

sharonapple88 said...

Can you blame industry from trying to cash in on the growing green scam.

Unlike that stuff they did with fossil fuels, which was strictly for charity.

Lenny said...

It's refreshing to hear a wingnut arguing for regulation and admitting that corporations are only concerned with their bottom lines.

Ti-Guy said...

I didn't get past the wingnut's first sentence.

I wish those people would focus on structuring their thoughts first before launching into all the colourful hyperbole.

Paul S said...

Is there anything climate fanatics like Romm are happy with?

If you don't like oil from the tar sands, too bad.

As for Husky, they've added ethanol to their fuel for many years. And yes, it does reduce CO2 emissions.

And considering that any large city in Canada produces far more pollutants and waste in a day then the tar sands do, it might be time for the green warriors to focus a little more on themselves.

Lenny said...

"And yes, it does reduce CO2 emissions. "

Any evidence for this assertion?


"...it might be time for the green warriors to focus a little more on themselves."

I think that's what this topic is about, Dumstrum - encouraging people to stop buying the Albertards dirty oil.

Gene Rayburn said...

Maybe we should find out how much Paul S's hot air contributes to global warming... Green Warriors Go!!!!

Holly Stick said...

I'm not sure where in Alberta Paul is, but I'm ashamed that my city has such a rotten record:

"...Calgary produces more carbon dioxide per person in an urban setting than smog-filled Mexico City or New York City, according to a report by the United Nations..."

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2010/04/06/calgary-un-report-carbon-dioxide-greenhouse-emissions.html

wv = auckel How ominous, are we becoming Great Auk-like?

Ti-Guy said...

...Calgary produces more carbon dioxide per person in an urban setting than smog-filled Mexico City or New York City, according to a report by the United Nations...

Goodness. What are they feeding Calgarians?

Seriously, I don't understand how Calgary manages to accomplish this.

Holly Stick said...

Calgary is built more for cars than for public transport. Many people drive big trucks (which is ridiculous because often they don't need them). It used to be that what you might call a pickup truck, I would call a half-ton truck. But now they are much bigger looking and probably guzzle more gas. I don't think trucks have ever had the emissions standards that cars have, so trucks are dirtier.

And as the article points out, much of our electricity comes from burning coal. Lots of computers and lights and things, all fueled by coal.

Lenny said...

I don't find that surprising.
Calgary isn't so much a city as a suburb without an urb.
Chip-board houses from horizon to horizon, gridded by highways lined with box stores, strip malls, and fast food.
It's like they plucked Surrey up from Greater Vancouver, multiplied it by 10, and dropped it on the prairie.

buckets said...

The other thing about Calgary (and Alberta in general) is that most of its electricity is generated by coal, which produces about 1/3 more C02 than electricity generated by (say) gas.

Paul S said...

Hot air = global warming = not funny, Gene.

And Holly, is there anything the left isn't ashamed of?

Calgarians don't use more energy, it's simply that they must rely more on coal. They don't have the luxury of nuclear like Ontario does, at least not yet.

Ti-Guy said...

Why do you think Calgary needs nuclear at all? According to you, C02 emissions aren't even a problem.

Holly Stick said...

Intelligent Albertans are ashamed of having an abusive drunkard for premier for so many years. Among other things he failed to do, he could have reduced carbon emissions drastically:

http://www.albertaville.ca/resources/policy/

http://bullsheet.wordpress.com/2009/05/15/inside-ralph-kleins-vault/

Holly Stick said...

Oh yes, and Klein put a cap on wind power projects. How stupid is that?

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/opinion/story.html?id=81ec540f-e276-4a5b-97fe-552c6f487f30

Tof KW said...

Holly Stick said...
Oh yes, and Klein put a cap on wind power projects. How stupid is that?

Because Alberta is full of oil and coal, why both with that green nonsense.

BTW - I'm still trying to get over the audacity of an oil company to actually plaster green leaves and environmental slogans on their gas pumps. Imagine a fast-food restaurant putting a blue-menu wrapper around a triple bacon cheeseburger. If the public is stupid enough to buy into Husky's marketing, then the later example is the obvious next step.

Tof KW said...

Oops, my sarcasm above should have been ...why bother with that green nonsense.

Holly Stick said...

Hey Paul, read all about the drought in Alberta. What if the drought lasts for many years, like in Australia? People will be moving away in droves, long before any nuclear plants can start producing power.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/prairies/once-in-a-generation-drought-creates-water-crisis-in-alberta/article1531108/